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    Tuesday, July 31, 2001
    System Shock 3 Status? - 6:59:28 PM EST - Saam
Before you get excited, I am not implying that Shock 3 is being developed. I am not saying that it isn't either. What I am trying to explain is the current status of who's doing what regarding getting a 3rd installment of the greatest game series out. So.. here is an update:

On our Shock 1 & 2 General Discussion boards a week or so ago, someone posted a thread (thanks Stimpson J Cat) mentioning a thread over on Ion Storm's bulletin board regarding an update on a possible System Shock 3 (click here to view the thread). In that thread, Gwog (of PlanetDeusEx) states that he did some sniffing around and researching and he found out that a lot of different people own bits and pieces of the System Shock franchise. What happened was that when Looking Glass folded, they were in debt to several companies. They couldn't pay them back, therefore LG's assets were distributed to the creditors. Because of that, Shock 3 might be an unlikely reality, as hard as it sounds. That's just a summary, visit that thread to read Gwog's complete statement.

At any rate, I got in touch with Ken Levine (of Irrational Games fame, currently working on Freedom Force) yesterday, regarding this situation, and here's what he had to say:

i was at ea last week, and my gut feeling is that this is kind of true. yuck. lg left their financials in a very strange place. i spent a bunch of money trying [to find out about who owns what of Shock 2] and then gave up. hard to find. i had my lawyers look into it and all i got was a hefty legal bill...

Ken then goes on to say:

there's a bunch of problems with shock 3. first off, is how even if you can make the game, how do you make it successful at retail? second is, even if you get the rights, there are so many parties that own a piece of it, that it makes the game poison to most publishers as they're not keen on sharing the wealth. strangely enough, the easy part is actually building the game itself...

TTLG says: well, wouldn't it be possible just to purchase those pieces of the shock franchise from those companies? as for making it successful..was shock 2 a 'success' in the market?

Ken: yes, but that adds to the overall costs, esp. the up front committment of cash to a project, which is always the hardest to get. also, its several negotiations. it can become quite quickly a nightmare.
shock 2 was successful, but not Successful.

As to thinking Shock 3 will never happen, Ken says:

hey, i would love to do it, and so would everybody at irrational. no, i wouldn't say its the end of the shock universe. time has a way of figureing things out for you.

Well, there you have it. Feel free to make comments in our System Shock 1 & 2 General Discussion forum. I'm sure there is something us LG fans can do to help this situation, perhaps sniff around ourselves to find out what companies own what, how to get those pieces back, etc. Come on, I'm sure we have some lawyer fans that can volunteer to do this in their spare time, no? ;) (Also, don't forget to put your name on our System Shock 3 Petition).

Thanks to Ken for taking the time to clear things up.

    The Taffer's Post - Satirical Cybernetics - 7:40:11 PM EST - Dan
The next Taffer's Post is here! (I decided that posting them on the weekends was a bad idea, since hits on weekends are low. So here it is, early. Most future Taffer's Posts will be put up late in the week, before the weekend. Well, that's that.)

The Taffer's Post this week is a break from the norm. I had tons of fun putting it together, and I hope everyone has tons of fun reading it, looking at the pictures, downloading the audio, and so on. This Taffer's Post is not for everyone though ... it has spoilers for nearly every LGS game, especially System Shock 1 and Deus Ex.

Ain't skeert? Good! Here is the column version of The Taffer's Post - Satirical Cybernetics, and here is the forum version. Please comment!

   SIRCAM Virus Spreading. - 1:49:59 PM EST - Dave
Hi Guys and Gals,
The SIRCAM virus has been in the news a lot recently. This is a worm virus and is preading across the Internet like wildfire. I personally have recieved it three times in two days.
The email contains:

Hi How are you?

Iam sending this file for you to check

or something similar. It also comes in Spanish. It will contain an attachement. DO NOT RUN IT., do ing so will infect your PC.
If you are unfortunate enough to become infected with the SIRCAM virus you can obtain a tool to eliminate it from your system HERE

   New Mailing List - 3:33:53 PM EST - Dave
Hi folks, I just recieved word of a new mailing list for fans of three of the TTLG games, Thief, Deus Ex and System Shock

I'd like to inform you of a newly created mailing list devoted to first person shooters, primarily Thief, Deus Ex, and Shock2. I would greatly appreciate it if you could post the information on your site(s) for the other 1ps nuts like myself. Sub:

Here is the blurb:

A mailing list exclusively for fans of the new breed of intense "first person shooter" style games exemplified by the Thief, Deus Ex, & System Shock series. Discussion of strategies and FMs (fan made missions) is encouraged.

This list was created because, of all the gaming lists out there, most of them tend to discuss other games of no interest to "our" crowd, so I thought this might be a nice way to keep the 1ps crowd happy. Every time I try to discuss a new FM no one seems to care about them and switches the talk back to Diablo or Baldur's Gate, which, after playing Thief, I find boring.

There you go folks

    Fan works a plenty - 2:31:00 PM EST - Fat Burrick
Hi people! Dave finally decided to let me out and post something, so here we go ;)
The first things we have are 2 new FanFic's, Skeleton Crew part III by Andrew and Shocked Again by Matthew James, great work guys!
We also have some great artwork by the Troika Crew. Some Shock3 Conept Logo Featuring Shodan, Shock 3 Concept Logo and a picture entitled "Last Laugh, Best Laugh"
Great work everyone!

    Salting The Fries - Hosting Situation. - 2:20:47 PM EST - Dave
Hey Hackers, Saam posted the following over at the hub page.

Hi everyone, I hope you all are having a good summer (or winter if you are in the other side of the world!) so far!
I just wanted to keep you all updated on the hosting situation and what not, so here goes:
I think I am planning on moving the TTLG back to my uncle's office (back where the server was a year or so ago) in a few days. We simply cannot afford the hosting fees of our current ISP, so in the next week or so, we will be down for quite some time, maybe just a few hours, maybe a day. This is just a heads up though. >p> Hopefully, once we move back, we -might- be able to host all the fan missions again, but don't take my word for it yet. We have to first move back, test out the bandwidth, see if we clog up their lines, and then decide what we can't/can host. I'll keep you posted. If you have any questions and/or comments, please let me know. Thanks!

This is just to keep you informed. Any questions, email Saam

    Levine Interviewed. - 4:05:39 PM EST - Dave
Freedom Force Central has posted a brand new two page interview with Irrational Games' general manager Ken Levine. Rather than discussing Irrational's upcoming Freedom Force game, this interview concentrates on Ken's background in the game industry as well as comments about computer games in general. Czech it out!
Thanks to Zdim for the heads up

    Fanworks. Two Fanfics, 1 art. - 3:09:55 PM EST - Dave
We have a bunch of new fanworks over the last few days!
First up is the continuation to Andrews "Skeleton Crew". Part II is avalible here
Second FanFic of the day is called Begining of the End and is by Chris Foncannon.
Finally is a piece of System Shock 2 artwork called Shodana and is by JC.

Cheers for your contributions to our fanwork collection guys! This is a grinning face, oh yes